25Feb ACP Leadership meet with reps of 75% of Irish dioceses

Thirty one  priests attended the meeting held on Tues 25 Feb in the Hodson Bay Hotel, Athlone, representing about three quarters of Ireland’s diocese.  It was chaired by Gerry Alwill of the Leadership Team.

Brendan Hoban, in an introduction, stated that one of the purposes of the meeting was to attempt to improve communications with the various dioceses. He acknowledged that the ACP, which operates without office or secretarial facilities, has not always been able to keep the lines of communication as open as the Leadership would wish. So this meeting was mainly for the diocesan representatives to talk to the leadership.

It was a lively and fruitful meeting, with practically everyone speaking over a two hour period. As has become the norm at ACP meetings, there was a great sense of freedom and openness in the contributions that were made. The main topics discussed were as follows:

  1. The difficulties created by the declining number of priests. Many angles of this problem were raised, ranging from the pressure being put on priests in their old age to the further decline of local communities when they are deprived of a resident priest. It was stressed that we should not look on this issue in a clericalist way, since it is a matter that concerns the whole Church.
  2. The enormous dissatisfaction with the New Missal, and the question of whether there was anything that could be done about it at this stage.

The feedback to the Leadership was generally very positive. It was mentioned that some priests do not approve of us, but the feeling was that, while a great many priests do not want to be bothered by going to meetings or even joining, that generally the work of the ACP is appreciated and valued.

The Leadership were very happy with the meeting, and feel that we are now much clearer on the message we would like to bring to the bishops if and when they agree to our request for a meeting.

The plans of the ACI for a national conversation were presented to the gathering.  The idea was very favourably received, but more clarity is needed in relation to the process. It was decided that one or two members of the Leadership should request a meeting with the ACI.

3 Responses

  1. Aodh

    I have written here before regarding my dismay at the supposed dissatisfaction with the new translation of the Roman Missal. I have yet to come across anyone for whom it is of any concern.

    I for one can harldy remember the previous translation due to its similarity to the new one.

    Where there is disattisfaction, I would especially like to understand how the change was implemented. What preparation was undertaken? How is sacred music supporting the Mass? Are the propers and ordinary being sung? What is the frequency and availability of the extraordinary form in parishes which are dissatisfied? Etc.

  2. Shaun

    Aodh, I know in the USA there were very good preparatory programmes of catechesis on the new translation. I guess how they were used and to what extent depended ultimately on the pastor. The same could be said of the UK and Ireland. I know I was dismayed at the lack of interest in the new translation and the non-use of the more than enough time there was that could, and should, have been used to provide information to people. Instead, the people had the translation presented to them on the start date with most of their information coming from the mainstream media and the ACP, all because the majority of bishops and priests weren’t interested. Sad, isn’t it?

  3. Joe O'Leary

    Aodh, have you noticed how often Eucharistic Prayer II is used on Sundays (though intended more for weekday use) since the new translations came in? Any idea why?


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