08May Commission on Women Deacons: Joyful Variety or Plain Fudge?

Various news outlets are carrying reports about Pope Francis’ comments on the female  diaconate in his airborne press conference while returning from a trip to Bulgaria and North Macedonia. We carry snippets from America Magazine and Vatican News.

 

America Magazine

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2019/05/07/pope-francis-says-commission-women-deacons-did-not-reach-agreement?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_campaign=cc6d99a4fc-DAILY_CAMPAIGN_2019_5_7&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_0fe8ed70be-cc6d99a4fc-58552141

Pope Francis says commission on women deacons did not reach agreement

Gerard O’Connell

In a press conference on the flight from Skopje to Rome, Pope Francis revealed that the commission he set up two years ago to examine the role of women in the early church did not reach agreement on the question of women deacons. He said the members of the commission had quite different positions, and after two years it stopped work. He made clear that the issue needed further study but did not say who would do this work.

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Regarding the question of women deacons, it was noted by the questioner that the Bulgarian Orthodox Church has women deacons to proclaim the Gospel. He was reminded that he will soon meet the International Union of Superiors Generals (who raised the question three years ago), and the pope was asked what he has learned from the report of the commission on the ministry of women in the early church and if he had made a decision on the female diaconate.

(The following is a working translation that may be subject to revision when the Vatican releases a definitive transcript.)

Pope Francis said that commission members “all had different positions, sometimes sharply different, they worked together and they agreed up to a point. Each one had his/her own vision, which was not in accord with that of the others, and the commission stopped there.” He described the contrasting conclusions drawn by members of the commission as “toads from different wells.”

Then, he said, “on the question of the female diaconate: there is a way of conceiving it that is not with the same vision as that of the male diaconate. For example, the formulae of diaconate ordination [of women] found up to now are not the same as for the ordination of the male diaconate. Rather, they are more like what today would be the blessing of an abbess.”

Pope Francis said, “There were deaconesses at the beginning [of the church], but [the question is] was theirs a sacramental ordination or not? They helped, for example, in the liturgy of baptism, which was by immersion, and so when a woman was baptized the deaconesses assisted…. Also for the anointing of the body.”

“A document was found,” he said, “which shows that deaconesses were called by the bishop when there was a marriage dispute for the dissolution of the marriage. The deaconesses were sent to look at the bruises on the body of the woman beaten by her husband. And they gave testimony before the judge.” But, the pope said, “there is no certainty that theirs was an ordination with the same formula and the same finality of the male ordination.”

“Some say there is a doubt,” he said. “Let us go forward to study [the women’s diaconate]. I am not afraid of the study. But up to this moment it has not happened.”

Moreover, Pope Francis said, “it is curious that where there were women deacons it was always in a geographical zone, above all in Syria.”

Francis said, “I received all these things from the commission. It did a good job and this can serve to go forward and to give a definitive response, yes or no” on whether their ordination is the same as that for men deacons.

At a May 2016 meeting with the women’s International Union of Superiors General, leaders of women’s religious orders, one of them had asked the pope, “What prevents the church from including women among permanent deacons, as was the case in the primitive church? Why not constitute an official commission to study the matter?”

The pope had told the sisters that his understanding was that the women described as deaconesses in the New Testament were not ordained like permanent deacons are, however, the pope fulfilled a promise to set up the commission on the issue. Two of the scholars on that commission reported in January that they had completed their work.

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The pope did not tell reporters what steps, if any, would come next on the subject of a women’s diaconate.

He told reporters, “Today, no one says so, but 30 years ago some theologians were saying that there were no deaconesses because women were in second rank in the church and not only in the church.” But, Francis said, “this is curious because in that epoch there were many pagan priestesses; the female priesthood in pagan cults was something usual.”

The pope concluded, “We are at this point, and each of the members is studying his/her own thesis.” There is a “varietas delectas (joyful variety).”

 

Vatican News

https://www.vaticannews.va/en/pope/news/2019-05/pope-inflight-press-conference-journey-bugaria-north-macedonia.html

Women’s Diaconate

Noting that in Bulgaria the Pope visited an Orthodox community that has cultivated a tradition of ordaining women deacons to proclaim the Gospel, and that in a few days he will be meeting the International Union of Superiors General, a journalist asked Pope Francis what he has learnt from the Study Commission’s report on the Women’s Diaconate, and about his thoughts on the issue.

Pope Francis created the Study Commission on the Women’s Diaconate in 2016.

Answering the reporter’s question, the Pope said the Commission worked for almost two years until it came to a halt due to differences in vision.

He said that regarding women’s diaconate “there is a way of conceiving it with a different vision to that of the male diaconate”.

Although there are historical documents regarding the ministry of women deacons, the Pope said “there is no certainty that their ordination was in the same form and purpose as male ordination”.

He said the commission did a good job and their conclusions can serve to move forward in the quest for a definitive “yes or no” concluding that theologians are at a point in which they are studying the various theses.

 

 

6 Responses

  1. Donal Dorr

    There is mention of ‘an initial report’. Surely we should be enabled to see that report. Was there a ‘majority report’? If so how large was the majority? Was there just a small blocking group? As Christians we need to hear more.

  2. Phil Greene

    So many ways to say “no”
    So many ways to say “you are not worthy”

    So many gifts wasted.
    So many opportunities to learn and grow lost.

    So sad that we no longer really care..
    So sad that they think this is ok..

    So cruel to expect us to hang on
    So cruel to expect us to hope

    So long, let’s call it a day
    So long, it’s all been said.

  3. Mary Vallely

    ‘In June 2016, just after Francis announced he would create a commission for the study of the diaconate of women, he joked to journalists, “ When you want something not to be resolved, make a commission.” It wasn’t funny then, and it sure isn’t funny now.” ‘ ( Jamie Manson.)
    Francis has that old Italian Argentinian macho attitude towards women and I doubt he will change now.
    The following article is a more uplifting read, worth reflection and sharing widely. We have to admit that “we have internalized systemic discrimination for centuries. And the first step is to liberate ourselves from old patterns of thinking and behaving.”
    https://voicesoffaith.org/conversations-1/2019/4/23/a-conversation-with-benedictine-sister-philippa-rath-osb-about-crisis-in-the-church-and-the-opportunities-this-might-bring-for-women

  4. Eddie Finnegan1

    Funny thing that – in Acts 6 the Twelve seem to have taken about five minutes to tell the Hellenist group to go ahead and select the Seven for a specific task. Then they prayed and laid hands on them. Mission creep seems to have taken care of the future of the Deacons, if we judge from the stories of Stephen and Philip. So no need for a 2-year commission leading to no result. Surely that’s how to appoint and ordain Deacons? Oh, wait . . .

  5. Maureen Mulvaney

    PHIL @ # 2, you have summarized the whole SAD situation of Pope Francis response to the Commission on Women Deacons, splendidly, in your poem. It says it all.

  6. Phil Dunne

    I agree with you both Phil and Maureen. I was at a funeral today where a male priest and male deacon presided. I was present to support my neighbour. The only times I now attend misogynistic services is to attend a wedding or lfuneral.

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